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We interviewed journalists Manuel Hernández and Ramiro Cazarez (Sinaloa) about the capture of drug trafficker Ovidio Guzmán near Culiacán. “Capturing the drug lords is an important step because it can’t be that they walk the streets as if nothing had happened,” says Cázarez. We also talked about the situation in Peru with the journalist Mirko Lauer.
Interview with Ramiro Cazarez, director of the weekly Mercurio de Sinaloa.
R.F.I. The operation in the town of Jesús María to capture Omar Ovidio Guzmán, son of jailed drug trafficker Joaquín El Chapo Guzmán, left at least 29 dead, 10 soldiers and 19 suspected criminals. Thirty-five members of the Mexican security forces were also injured. The arrest was in the town of Jesús María, which is half an hour from Culiacán. In networks we have seen aerial photos of Ovidio Guzmán’s ranch. What is striking is that it is a huge ranch with several cars and motorcycles parked. One suspects that the young drug dealer was not very concerned about an eventual capture. Is it so?
Indeed, this Mr. Ovidio lived peacefully surrounded by municipal police officers and even members of the army who had to go through there to go to the mountains. Yeah, he wasn’t bothered.
R.F.I. Why turn to the army and not the police?
Because the municipal police are mostly in collusion with organized crime. In addition, it is impossible that, with the weapons used by the municipal police, they can deal with the heavy-caliber weapons of the criminals. Around the capo’s house there were an average of 30 armored vehicles with high-caliber weapons. Weapons superior to that were obviously needed. From my point of view, there was no other option than to resort to the army.
R.F.I. Do you consider that this operation to capture the kingpin is an achievement of President López Obrador?
Yes, because the ‘Culiacanazo’ is a painful episode that took place here in Sinaloa on October 17, 2019. That fact left much to be desired for the authorities, for the president of Mexico himself, since he himself gave the order for ( Ovidio Guzmán) was released when he was already at the airport to be transferred to Mexico City. However, now the operation was carried out at dawn. That also decreases casualties. There were fewer civilian casualties.
R.F.I. Do you think there is a coincidence between this operation to capture Ovidio Guzmán and the arrival of President Biden 72 hours later?
It’s not coincidence. It was an act that had to be given. Surely many factors are already on the negotiating table. López Obrador had to make himself look good to the US authorities. The government of that country should have demanded this capture before Biden arrived in Mexico. Fentanyl is a drug that is flooding the United States and one of the main exporters of the drug there is precisely Ovidio Guzmán. Here in Sinaloa it is thought that one of the agreements between the two countries was to put Guzmán’s head behind bars so that the extradition process can be carried out as quickly as possible.
R.F.I. And do you think that this extradition process is going to materialize?
Yes, definitely. I have no doubt that it will be so.
R.F.I. Do you think that this capture will bring changes in Culiacán?
No, it will be the same, nothing changes. One drug lord is captured, but five more get out. In the case of the Guzmán, the sons of drug trafficker Joaquín Guzmán, there are two of them active. One of them has already taken the reins to replace his brother. But capturing the drug lords is an important step because it can’t be that they just walk the streets like nothing, from restaurant to restaurant, for the whole world to see while the authorities turn a blind eye.
